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[quote="jebba"]Oh, and as for the part whether you actually paid microsloth or not, i couldn't care less. I have no problem with people not paying for proprietary junk, but prefer they used the free software route we offer.[/quote]
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<table border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1" width="100%" class="forumline"> <tr> <th class="thCornerL" width="22%" height="26">Author</th> <th class="thCornerR">Message</th> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>gr00ve</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:45 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: In a fix</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>techmoron wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Hope its alright to quote you</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />yes of course you are FREE to quote me for a limited time offer of $1000 per symbol in the quote including punctuation marks. :))) <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>john maclean wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">It's an unfortunate choice of words but freedom != free.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />freedom < free ; because freedom is assumed within some sort of boundaries, the only free that I personally see as truly FREE is being able to do whatever you like in whichever way you like and this is precisely why such line of thoughts commonly end up in limbo's everyone calls utopias..</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>john maclean</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:29 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">It's an unfortunate choice of words but freedom != free. Freedom does mean the chance or choice to "look under the hood and mess about with this software stuff". It does not mean that no money must change hands. We choose to use an operating system and tools with which we are free to do more or less as we like. <br /> <br />For instance I've given away, distributed, torrented and sold tonnes of BLAG CD's. <br /> <br />That's because I'm FREE to do so. When I get a call for tech support I am FREE to charge market rates, same as when I give tuition or write documentation. Free to change the code as I wish. Take stuff out, put stuff in, mix it all up.... <br />...I am also FREE to pick up the pieces when my system(s) breaks but that is how we learn!</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>uninverted</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:55 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">ARG! You're missing the point <span style="font-style: italic">entirely</span>! Free software has nothing to do with price! <br /> <br />Free Software means: <br />1 - The freedom to run the program for any purpose (this one stops H.A.L. from being free software) <br />2 - The freedom to study and change the program (With proprietary software like MS's crap, you have to beg the developer for features, and if something goes wrong, sorry, tell the developer and wait) <br />3 - The freedom to redistribute the program, for $0 or a fee (Every program gains this freedom at some point) <br />4 - The freedom to improve upon the program, and share changes with it's other users (this one is why almost every free program is technically better than it's non-free counterpart) <br /> <br />So, <br /> <br />"like google is not free, you still use it though." <br /> <br />Google is proprietary, but it's a little different for websites. It certainly has 1 and 3 <br /> <br />"internet is not free, well to most folks anyways." <br /> <br />GNU/Linux has a big chunk of the server market, and the free Apache program is really, really big there as well. The internet might be free, depending on the site (www.gnu.org certainly, msn not so much) <br /> <br />"time itself is not free, neither are feelings." <br /> <br />You're free to do and think whatever the hell you want, in most of the world <br /> <br />"pretty much nothing is really free in this life or the virtual world, be it software, people or anything else. " <br /> <br />For the first one, with BLAG and similar systems, you can run your whole computer on free software. For the second two, see the part before this.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jebba</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 4:10 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Jason wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">You still miss the point dude. Do you take a broken dishwasher to a car mechanic to fix? Do you go to the vet if you have a cold? Maybe you go to the dentist to get your hair cut?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />LOL. that pretty much sums it up.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jason</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 2:49 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">You still miss the point dude. Do you take a broken dishwasher to a car mechanic to fix? Do you go to the vet if you have a cold? Maybe you go to the dentist to get your hair cut? <br /> <br />It quite simply would be fake of us non-Windows users to offer you technical support. <br /> <br />What do you want me to say? Yeah sure go ahead your data will be fine? Or give a generic guess and say nah it will wipe it? Seriously what is the true answer you seek or are you simply seeking to troll? <br /> <br />Look up there ^^^^^ and see what it says. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">BLAG <br />Forums for BLAG</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />It is as much to being as forum off topic as it has to do with freedom. Had someone come here asking for a part to their flux capacitor, do you think they would get an accurate answer? <br /> <br />We try our best here to give the best support and help needed. No answer we could give you would be accurate or leave the poster feeling confident their answer is true. <br /> <br />So I will give you the answer you need. Your data is either going to be 100% fine or 100% screwed. It is a 50/50 shot but that is life with Windows. <br /> <br />Now you will argue this point because you are that sort of person but you won't get a better answer than that here because ^^^^^ it does not say Windows, Microsoft, 2000, XP, Vista, Service Pack, NTFS or any of these other buzz words you may happen to find on a forum that actually welcomes Windows topics and can support those. <br /> <br />Now let me ask you a question. I want to steal a space shuttle engine and put in on a go-kart. I am curious to see what 12.4 million horsepower engine behind me can accomplish. Where can I get one? It is not free, probably highly unmaintainable and might crash much like Windows but it is as relevant to these forums as your topic.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>noldrin</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:33 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">You would have been best off backing up your stuff to the external hard disk and then installed as a non upgrade. You can try to install Windows XP from CD again, this time installing on the main hard drive. Hopefully it won't delete your important data, but who knows for sure.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>techmoron</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:21 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: In a fix</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I would like to quote this from grOOve: <br /> <br />why does free or non free really make a difference? i mean i do understand your argument in this particular case and it might be a good idea to do this, since clearly there are different free & non-free things/issues which can easily be solution/problem, i mean more like in general? <br /> <br />like google is not free, you still use it though. <br />internet is not free, well to most folks anyways. <br />time itself is not free, neither are feelings. <br />pretty much nothing is really free in this life or the virtual world, be it software, people or anything else. <br /> <br />does it not matter more to get stuff to work? like personally i wouldn't care less what label [proprietary, open, closed, free, non free...] does a particular piece of software or hardware has as long as it does what i want it to do and it does so in a way i want it to. <br /> <br /> I couln't have said it better myself! This is what I was trying to say but in an academicising style. Public tranaport isn't free but you still use it etc.....[/quote]</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>techmoron</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Wed May 28, 2008 12:14 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: In a fix</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">I would like to quote this: <br />why does free or non free really make a difference? i mean i do understand your argument in this particular case and it might be a good idea to do this, since clearly there are different free & non-free things/issues which can easily be solution/problem, i mean more like in general? <br /> <br />like google is not free, you still use it though. <br />internet is not free, well to most folks anyways. <br />time itself is not free, neither are feelings. <br />pretty much nothing is really free in this life or the virtual world, be it software, people or anything else. <br /> <br />does it not matter more to get stuff to work? like personally i wouldn't care less what label [proprietary, open, closed, free, non free...] does a particular piece of software or hardware has as long as it does what i want it to do and it does so in a way i want it to. <br /> (This is from grOOve. Hope its alright to quote you) <br /> I couln't have said it better myself . This is what I was trying to say but in a somewhat academic style. Public transport is not free but we use it etc.........</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jebba</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 11:32 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>hansencomputers wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">Anyone using MS Windows should pay for the product. If the purchase price is too high, switch to Linux. Using XP illegally</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />i think there may be an anarchist on this board who rejects the idea of illegal, whether related to xp or whatever.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>hansencomputers</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 9:49 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Has techmoron actually said he is interested in leaving MS Windows behind, and moving to Linux? I couldn't tell from what I've read. <br /> <br />I feel strongly about this, so I need to say something. Anyone using MS Windows should pay for the product. If the purchase price is too high, switch to Linux. Using XP illegally should not be the other option. I wouldn't think anyone here is going to spend their time helping get XP up and running. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> <br />The alternative for me is to go to my local petit- bourgeoise and pay him £100 to reinstall windows. </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Who gets that much for installing Win XP? I gotta start charging more.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>Jason</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Tue May 27, 2008 3:39 pm<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">More to the point what makes you think we would bother to have any Windows experts here? Would you come here asking how to fix a spaceshuttle engine? Or how to have sex with a badger without catching an STD? Would you ask an OS X question here? <br /> <br />Some of our users have never used Windows at all. Would you want us to give you phony advice or just say this is the wrong place? Those people here who have used Windows now use BLAG for a reason and see no reason to have to boot Windows to find a long winded solution to a problem you could have solved on a forum that is Windows specific. <br /> <br />It is not about bandwidth or domination but what we like doing, what we like using and what we know. Anything else is just fake.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>renilgh</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 8:17 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Jebba's remark</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>techmoron wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> If I did not pay for it and WAS ABLE TO FREELY DISTRIBUTE AND USE IT would this make it any different from BLAG?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />As jebba lined out, that's far from being sufficient. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">What is wrong with trying to "save money" anyway? </td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br />Uuuh can't answer this here. Maybe losing the point of freedom. <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote"> I would install blag were it not for the problem I first outlined so maybe I could get some advice rather than abuse.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Okay, that's the point. I think it really would be nice if some people would calm down a bit. We're just in a communication trap here. <br /> <br />Let's see it as lined out in the following: <br />techmoron would like to have BLAG on his box. <br />He currently has a broken OS (why should I care which one) on his box. <br />-> Just installing BLAG would mean loss of a considerable amount of data (I assume) <br /> <br />So here is my advice: <br />You can use a live CD, like <a href="http://dynebolic.org" target="_blank" class="postlink">dyne:bolic</a> or the <a href="ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/BLAG/linux/CURRENT/en/iso/liveBLAG-70000.iso" target="_blank" class="postlink">BLAG liveCD</a> to save your data. <br />This will be quite comfortable if you have some external storing device to backup them to. If you don't have such, you hopefully got space on your hdd left (in best case as much as currently used). You can install BLAG beside the broken OS and copy over the data from there. Then you can wipe the space on your hdd containing the broken OS. <br />If you don't have enough space to install BLAG beside the other OS and copy/move all the files over to BLAG it will get quite painful. You will have to move as much files over to BLAG as possible, boot up with one of the live disks, resize partitions in order to make more space avaible for BLAG, move some files and resize again... <br /> <br />That's the best way to solve your problem from my point of view. I hope you haven't been scared away yet and are ready to ask further questions. But please don't ask for support on non-free OSes. Imagine to ask a veg(etari)an for help on butchering. It simply won't work. (-;</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>saddletramp</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:35 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">man! i thought some of my stuff was out there?!! can't believe this hasn't been closed or deleted yet. <br /> <br /> <br />"need to erase the internal hard drive. Am I correct and how do I do this?" <br /> <br />yes, <br />that's what you need to do. simply install the xp disk and perform a complete installation on it. it will give you the opportunity to delete and format everything.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row2"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jebba</b></span></td> <td class="row2" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:31 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: </span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody">Oh, and as for the part whether you actually paid microsloth or not, i couldn't care less. I have no problem with people not paying for proprietary junk, but prefer they used the free software route we offer.</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> <tr> <td width="22%" align="left" valign="top" class="row1"><span class="name"><a name=""></a><b>jebba</b></span></td> <td class="row1" height="28" valign="top"><table width="100%" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tr> <td width="100%"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/icon_minipost.gif" width="12" height="9" alt="Post" title="Post" border="0" /><span class="postdetails">Posted: Mon May 26, 2008 1:28 am<span class="gen"> </span> Post subject: Re: Jebba's remark</span></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><hr /></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2"><span class="postbody"></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>techmoron wrote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">If I did not pay for it and WAS ABLE TO FREELY DISTRIBUTE AND USE IT would this make it any different from BLAG?</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />Yes, because your conception of free is different from ours. We consider the *FREEDOM TO MODIFY* vital as well, and you can't do that with MS crap: <br /> <br /></span><table width="90%" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="3" border="0" align="center"><tr> <td><span class="genmed"><b>Quote:</b></span></td> </tr> <tr> <td class="quote">* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this. <br /> * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.</td> </tr></table><span class="postbody"> <br /> <br />MS stuff violates all four freedoms, but even if you count copying proprietary junk as "free", you're still lacking the freedom to study/change. <br /> <br />-Jeff</span></td> </tr> </table></td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" height="1" class="spaceRow"><img src="templates/BLAGlight/images/spacer.gif" alt="" width="1" height="1" /></td> </tr> </table>
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