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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 12:18 am 
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Is it possible to stop the CD being ejected after the media test during install?
You must know you're doing things right when someone moans about something so trivial :D


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 6:46 am 
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... and is it possible to eject it just before restarting the computer?


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2007 2:27 pm 
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After testing a bunch of search programs, I would suggest replacing the included gnome search with recoll. Light and fast.

http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/


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noldrin wrote:
After testing a bunch of search programs, I would suggest replacing the included gnome search with recoll. Light and fast.

http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/


It's not compiling for me--not sure why it would want to `cd` into `moc`...

Code:
cd qtgui; /usr/lib/qt-3.3/bin/qmake recoll.pro; make depth=..
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/70k-blag/BUILD/recoll-1.8.2/qtgui'
( cd /src/moc && make )
/bin/sh: line 0: cd: /src/moc: No such file or directory
make[1]: *** [/bin/moc] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/70k-blag/BUILD/recoll-1.8.2/qtgui'
make: *** [all] Error 2


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:23 am 
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jebba wrote:
It's not compiling for me--not sure why it would want to `cd` into `moc`...


That's unfortunate. It's has a working rpm before, so I don't know why it can't compile. Might be something to contact the author on.

I guess I could give it a try. Speaking of developement, when your installing 70K, it would be cool if it gave you a development option to install gcc. Perhaps you could even sneak geany, although that is probably wishful thinking ;)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/geany


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jebba wrote:
It's not compiling for me--not sure why it would want to `cd` into `moc`...


I can't even get that far.. It seems to have been written against the older xapian-core.

I tried using Pinot which is suppose to be a gnome version of the xapian search that recoll uses, but it keeps needing dependencies that weren't written into the rpm. grrrr


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noldrin wrote:
jebba wrote:
It's not compiling for me--not sure why it would want to `cd` into `moc`...


I can't even get that far.. It seems to have been written against the older xapian-core.


I tried it against newer and older xapian-cores. I put my builds here if you want to download them:

ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/blag/lin ... PMS.extras

ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/blag/lin ... PMS.extras


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:04 am 
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Interestingly, OLPC uses xapian:

http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/f ... rce/SRPMS/


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Have you given any more thought to using iceweasel and icedove rather than firefox and thunderbird? I'm thinking that that might help blag stand out a bit more, and appeal to those interested in free software.


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Have you given any more thought to using iceweasel and icedove rather than firefox and thunderbird? I'm thinking that that might help blag stand out a bit more, and appeal to those interested in free software.


Well, I'm not quite sure what that would entail, really. I mean, is there an official upstream iceweasel.tar.gz I should be using? We are building firefox with --unofficial or whatever it is that removes their shiny icons.


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The source for the newest iceweasel and icedove can be found at the bottom of these pages:
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/iceweasel
http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/icedove

You have to scroll down to the bottom of the pages to get to the source files. The current ones are:
iceweasel_2.0.0.4.orig.tar.gz
and
icedove_2.0.0.4.dfsg1.orig.tar.gz
(I don't know what the "orig" or the "dfsg1" are about).

The maintainers can be contacted through here:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/iceweasel.html
http://packages.qa.debian.org/i/icedove.html
Those pages also have an option to subscribe to those packages in order to keep track of the releases.


If you want, I can contact the maintainers and ask if blag can use their source files. (And I can ask what the "orig" and "dfsg1" are about).


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If you want, I can contact the maintainers and ask if blag can use their source files. (And I can ask what the "orig" and "dfsg1" are about).


No need to ask them as we can. But do we need to?

Is iceweasel_2.0.0.4.orig.tar.gz any different than firefox-2.0.0.4.tar.gz?


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I'm not sure what the "orig" in the iceweasel, but here is the general explanation of the difference between firefox and iceweasel:
http://www.gnu.org/software/gnuzilla/

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IceWeasel is the GNU version of the Firefox browser. Its main advantage is an ethical one: it is entirely free software. While the source code from the Mozilla project is free software, the binaries that they release include additional non-free software. Also, they distribute non-free software as plug-ins. (IceWeasel does keep the triple licensing used by Firefox to facilitate the reuse of code.)

IceWeasel also includes some privacy protection features:

1. Some sites refer to zero-size images on other hosts to keep track of cookies. When IceWeasel detects this mechanism it blocks cookies from the site hosting the zero-length image file. (It is possible to re-enable such a site by removing it from the blocked hosts list.)
2. Other sites rewrite the host name in links redirecting the user to another site, mainly to "spy" on clicks. When this behavior is detected, IceWeasel shows a message alerting the user.


But the reason why I brought it up is that it seems like iceweasel and icedove are known as products of the gnu and free software movement, so it's just kind of a mark of identity and ideals more than anything else.


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I think you're confusing debian's iceweasel package with a GNU project of the same name. They are not the same thing, as I understand it. If you look at the GNU source, it's old:
http://gnuzilla.gnu.org/download/

One release, of 1.5.0.7 only...

I'm guessing debian is just using the firefox tarball.


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You mean you suspect that the gnu project hasn't gone anywhere since the old tarball posted there was put up? I was guessing that the issue was that the gnu page was not very well maintained, and the debian pages reflect the current state of iceweasel/icedove.

We could email the maintainers to get the lowdown.


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