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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 4:47 pm 
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ewl wrote:
I think we should all email Ladislav and tell him how pissed we are that he's ignoring our distro's new release. Get really indignant and say that we'll never go to his site again. Hit him in the pocketbook ;)


This is a bit much for me. I think 1) he's right the release wasn't the most interesting and 2) he was probably not having the greatest of days for whatever other reason. His messages seemed a bit over aggressive, but I'm sure we've all sent emails like that in our lives.

Anyway, I'm not mad at him or really want to "do battle" with distrowatch. Let's just clean the thing up, make it prettier, and resend it.

r7, so when you feel ready, go ahead and send it in. :)

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I know what you mean, and I was "kind of" kidding. But it seems rather arrogant for the owner of a commercial site which purports to be a service for the gnu/linux community telling a well established distribution that it basically needs to become more commercial. I mean how much effort does it take to post a single announcement. It's not like he has put any work into it other than writing a little html. Looking at the new release announcements currently on Distrowatch, Blag has been around longer than all of them except for UHU linux and Linux from Scratch. That includes all the flavors of Ubuntu.

Shit, I could come out with a Nose-Picker's version of Ubuntu, or maybe Ubuntu for overly flatulent people and it would probably get listed. He wants us to look prettier to attract more hits to his page so that he can charge his advertisers more money.

I'm a big Slackware fan. But go to their website. Slackware is one of the most boring distros around. But they provide a quality product, and so does Blag.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 9:41 pm 
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ewl wrote:
I know what you mean, and I was "kind of" kidding.


Ya, i figured you were, but I also didn't want folks to mailbomb ladislav! ;)

ewl wrote:
...Blag has been around longer than all of them except for UHU linux and Linux from Scratch. That includes all the flavors of Ubuntu.


The first public release was October 2002, so I think we're older than UHU too.

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I'm a big Slackware fan. But go to their website. Slackware is one of the most boring distros around. But they provide a quality product, and so does Blag.


Ya, i used slackware back in the day, but now when i want to get that arcane, i just go openbsd. ;)

Thanks for all your comments & help recently, btw. :)

-Jeff


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does this strike anyone as a better version?
Yes it's a better version but maybe some explanation as to what each of the new application do would help the new commers to Blag and also make the folks at Distro Watch happy ;P

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 Post subject: release for 50002 final
PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 12:05 am 
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weyasey wrote:
r7 wrote
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does this strike anyone as a better version?
Yes it's a better version but maybe some explanation as to what each of the new application do would help the new commers to Blag and also make the folks at Distro Watch happy ;P


i've tried to get everyone's comments in and here's the final that's going out tomorrow.

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BLAG50002 (mendoza)
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The second update to the Fedora Core 5 based, single-CD, 100% Free distro has been released.

Highlights for this release are the latest kernel [2.6.17-1.2187_FC5], the 'promotion' of bitlbee [1.0.3] and irssi [0.8.10] from the repo onto the main CD and updates to such major packages as firefox [1.5.0.7 -- with BLAG's unique set of activist and independent media bookmarks], gimp [2.2.13], inkscape [0.44.1], scribus [1.2.5], thunderbird [1.5.0.7] and xchat [2.6.6].

BLAG continues to have range of tools and software for the desktop user, media activist and those searching for the properly 'free' GNU/Linux experience. This includes BLASTERISK -- the free BLAG telephone service for Free Software users, developers and Indymedia activists.

New to the CD
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bitlbee -- http://bitlbee.org/
An IRC to other chat networks gateway application. It allows you to do instant messaging in your IRC client of choice. Plays very well with irssi.

irssi -- http://irssi.org/
A terminal-based IRC client. Plays very well with bitlbee.

BLAG -- it makes you want to go `cat /etc/blag-release`.

Community
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http://www.blagblagblag.org/ BLAG Website
http://forums.blagblagblag.org/ BLAG Forums
http://wiki.blagblagblag.org/ BLAG Documentation
http://bugzilla.blagblagblag.org/ BLAG Bugzilla
irc://irc.indymedia.org/ #blag

Coming soon
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The return of the BLAG-style list [or is it lists?].

Download the CD image
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http://www.blagblagblag.org/torrents/BL ... so.torrent
ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/BLAG/lin ... -50002.iso
http://www.blagblagblag.org/50000/iso/BLAG-50002.iso

Downloadable versions of SRPM CDs and DVDs are also available.

Please use the torrents if you can.

All the in-depth stuff
======================
BLAG Linux and GNU is a 100% Free Software distribution.

BLAG is a single-CD distro with everything desktop users "expect" from a desktop, plus a collection of nice server apps.

The 50000 series of BLAG releases is based on Fedora Core 5 and uses packages from Extras, FreshRPMS, Dries, Livna, and ATrpms. It includes all Fedora updates as of time of release.

Other updates in this release include: apt [0.5.15], audacity [1.2.4], bind [9.3.2], cups [1.2.3], glibc [2.4.11], gnomebaker [0.6.0], gpodder [0.8.0], graveman [0.3.12.5], kino [0.9.2], liferea [1.0.23], openssh [4.3p2], openssl [0.9.8a], streamripper [1.16.27] and synaptic [0.57.2].

Overall, seven new packages were added and 88 were updated.

Full changelog: http://www.blagblagblag.org/50000/Changelog

Version roadmap: http://wiki.blagblagblag.org/Roadmap
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:09 am 
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I agree with the one disk angle. That is one reason that I always have a BLAG cd in my laptop case. No matter what distro I may be running on my laptop, I know that if I am somewhere away from the internet, and my OS craps out, I can just reinstall a fresh copy of BLAG, and everything I may need to use is there. One stop shopping so to speak. I think that along with its shear ease of use makes a good selling point.

I also agree though that Distrowatch should be totally unopinionated if it wants to get truly subjective data. I must say it raises my ire to think that they should be the deciders of which distrobution is most widely used and advertised.

my 2 cents.

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Would it worth putting in a "100% Open Source" in addition to "100% Free", so that still-wet-behind-the-ears linux newbies like myself will realize that you're not talking about free of charge? Some new people might think, "Free? What's the big deal about that? They're all free!"


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OK, r7, I think you can go ahead and send it !


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Perhaps writing it like, for example, "BLAG is a Free Software (open source) GNU/Linux distribution" would do it. I mean /exactly/ like that (including upper/lower case, parenthesis and such).


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yey ...

Code:
[root@localhost ~]# cat /etc/blag-release
BLAG release 50002 (mendoza)


For the past 5 days I've been running this slow machine with "Elive Revolution" LIVE-CD. Its pretty !!

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Caraibes wrote:
OK, r7, I think you can go ahead and send it !


I agree with that. It is a good write up.


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I agree with that. It is a good write up.

Me too...r7 send it and be damded ;)

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 Post subject: enough already!
PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 9:19 am 
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weyasey wrote:
jason wrote
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I agree with that. It is a good write up.

Me too...r7 send it and be damded ;)


IT'S DONE!


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 12:47 pm 
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And it's up on DW. Thanks r7! :)


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For those of us who want to update through the command line instead of the new iso, what are the other new packages in 50002 aside from irssi & bitlbee?

Also, is there any advantage of using irssi & bitlbee instead of gaim? I see that those two work via a terminal while gaim uses a gui, but is there any other serious difference? I looked on the net, but I can't quite figure out if there are compelling reasons to use one or ther other.

Thanks.


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