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tux21
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 Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: suggestions for blag |
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i heard about blag by chance while looking for
bug free fedora based distro, and running away
from fc5
just downloaded 50003
i would like new blag users to put their suggestions here .Mine are
1. your themes( boot flash and gnome and anaconda )were horrible. Change it to default fedora theme. This is because BLAG can be a really good alternative for fedora if you make the right moves. you see look and feel can make a big difference.
2. though u claim it works with apt, i could not work with it for more than 10 mins after which i got segmentation fault.
3. if yum is the default fedora stuff then why push apt through. I read somewhere yum
was better for rpm distros(though i dislike it, u see i am from the gentoo world)
4. and the most important is that people don't
seem to get to hear of you guys as they do of
ubuntu or say freespire, arch etc.
Don;t ask me why but a short article in some Linux magzine in India would be of help.
Remember i have the right to give my opinions
Don't pull me for that.
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Chris
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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I do too agree on the look and feel of this distro. Blag is my linux of choice and I will never change(I Hate Ubuntu). However, first impressions of blag is what it looks like when it loads up for the first time. Most people who have never seen linux say to me, ugh is that linux? Can you make it look nicer? Therefore I always have to spend some time after installing blag to make it look better via, icons themes, backgrounds etc..
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Caraibes
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions for blag |
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| tux21 wrote: | | 2. though u claim it works with apt, i could not work with it for more than 10 mins after which i got segmentation fault. |
I had the same issue with segmentation fault. I finally re-installed. Even though I use Blag for quite some times now, on various desktops... I just use apt when it works, and yum when nothing else is avalaible...
As of the themes & icons, I must admit it is the first thing I change when I install...
However, you grow to like it ! I sometimes go back to the Blag Canyon for a whole week, just for the buzzz !!
Since I know Jebba (for some months, mainly in IRC or the forum...), he doesn't really stress too much about being commercial, so I don't think heĺl do the PRīs... It has to come from one of us, the users... I am not great at PR, but I do mention Blag whenever possible, in various forums and IRC chanels...
As of me, I do not dislike Ubuntu, it is just that Blag works better on my desktops...
I shall ask that the community is very friendly and helpfull, Jebba, R7, Stevo32, and the others... EWL for the discussions about life and politics...
Blag 50k works fine, and I am getting curious about the forthcoming Blag 60k...
Anyway, welcome aboard, and go ahead about the article in the Linux Mag of India !
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ewl
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| tux21 wrote: | | 2. though u claim it works with apt, i could not work with it for more than 10 mins after which i got segmentation fault. |
Hmm. This is no fault of apt itself, methinks. When I hear things like that and pursue it to the end, it's often that the person had bad media, bad ram, or similar.... |
The segmentation fault with apt-get happens periodically with me also. I can always fix it -- temporarily -- with:
rm -rf /var/cache/apt*
rm -rf /var/state/apt/*
rpm -e apt synaptic
yum install apt synaptic
As a matter of fact I've created a shell script which will do this. But the fix doesn't stick. This happens about once every other day or so. I figured it was an issue with 59k, but if others are having the same problem...
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jebba
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| Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject: Re: suggestions for blag |
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| tux21 wrote: | | 1. your themes( boot flash and gnome and anaconda )were horrible. Change it to default fedora theme. This is because BLAG can be a really good alternative for fedora if you make the right moves. you see look and feel can make a big difference. |
I personally like it, but you are not the first person to say this (that they prefer a different theme). We can't just use the all of the fedora one since their name is splashed all over it and they have the precious word trademarked and they have lawyers and they believe in the "rule of law" and the "rule of law" has guns. So we change the theme. ;)
That said, if others want to work something up, that's fine with me. Though I usually hear offers of help and not the help itself. ;)
| tux21 wrote: | | 2. though u claim it works with apt, i could not work with it for more than 10 mins after which i got segmentation fault. |
Hmm. This is no fault of apt itself, methinks. When I hear things like that and pursue it to the end, it's often that the person had bad media, bad ram, or similar....
| tux21 wrote: | 3. if yum is the default fedora stuff then why push apt through. I read somewhere yum
was better for rpm distros(though i dislike it, u see i am from the gentoo world) |
It's purely a matter of taste. I just prefer `apt`...I'm not necessarily "pushing" it though. Both are installed by default.
| tux21 wrote: | 4. and the most important is that people don't
seem to get to hear of you guys as they do of
ubuntu or say freespire, arch etc.
Don;t ask me why but a short article in some Linux magzine in India would be of help. |
I don't have a magazine in india to write in, but if you do, go for it. :)
| tux21 wrote: | Remember i have the right to give my opinions
Don't pull me for that. |
I wasn't planning on it.
Ciao,
-Jeff
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noldrin
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:45 am Post subject: Re: suggestions for blag |
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| tux21 wrote: |
3. if yum is the default fedora stuff then why push apt through. I read somewhere yum
was better for rpm distros(though i dislike it, u see i am from the gentoo world) |
They are probably still waiting for yum not to suck first before considering a switch to it. Many of find that apt works a lot better and see it as one of the reasons we love blag.
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Chris
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Appearance did improve with the penguin background in blag 30000. It actually had some color to it :)
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tux21
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: |
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wow
i didn't expect 5 replies in one day!
i will definitel try what ewl says.
Publicity can also spread by word of mouth. So let us commit to that. what blag scores is in that its a one cd distro , has updates of fedora and comes with apt. If it has the looks too(without trademarks ofcourse) then that will be great.
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ewl
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: |
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And... It's all free software. Not a proprietary bit in the lot. So you get all this goodness and freedom to boot.
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tux21
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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frankly speaking most of the end users don't care about that
but i do :)
Anyway when will Blag 60k be released?
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tux21
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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Hey i just installed PCLINUXOS on my other partiton (1st time) and was
damn impressed. It has apt(not a thing went wrong) and just one repository.
mp3, ntfs, win codecs are default.
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ewl
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| tux21 wrote: | frankly speaking most of the end users don't care about that
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That's a fact, and it's unfortunate. The reason we all have so much choice between different distros of Gnu/Linux is because it is based on free software. That's not always obvious to the end user, but it's still important. The more dependent the operating system is on non-free software, the less power independent developers have to take it and change it in different directions, and the less choice the end user has. That's why you don't get much choice if you use Windoze or MacOS.
Fortunately, with Blag, you have the best of both worlds. A distro that is commited to freedom and is, at the same time, user friendly out of the box.
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john maclean
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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/* deep breath */
The theme is/was a gripe for me too. However it's so subjective that it's probably one of those things that I never have mentioned until now. Here are some screenshots submitted to howtoforge by me http://howtoforge.com/image/tid/44 and stevo32 http://howtoforge.com/image/tid/58. There are loads more all over the blag wiki for instance using themes, icons and backgrounds.
I've not mentioned it before because...
/* ducks for cover */
...I think that it's not important as having a free working system, particularly on older machines. I still can't belive that I can use the same CD to install BLAG on as many boxes as I want. You just can't do that with the doze and macs of this world.
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jebba
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| Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, I'm all for a new theme as the current one is definitely getting a bit old. Feel free to point me at some good bits. I can't remember it's name offhand, but there was one that was known for being pretty lightweight that I was going to use as a base for the next generation.
BLAG's theme is one of the very few (or one of the first) that had all SVG icons, which is nice. :)
-Jeff
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ewl
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| Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I use fluxbox too. I like what you've done with it. What is that transparent app which displays the system resources? I use gkrellm but I like that one better.
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