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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:39 am 
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Hi Gang,
I'm not sure where this stems from, but I have suddenly developed some problems that I think may be related to the video card driver.

First I noticed that Beryl does not function. I get a blank, white screen when it is on.

I tried playing the game GL-117 which used to work great, and it does not run. I get some warnings about FPS too low, etc.

I had a recent group of updates and I installed them all. I don't recall what was all included in the updates. Any chance my problems are related to the recent updates?

I am able to function because I removed Beryl, but would eventually like to have it back.

Thanks,
Mike


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:51 am 
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What's your graphics stuff all about? Show us the output from /sbin/lscpi. Have you (knowingly) made any changes to your display? (example system-config-display or /etc/X11/xorg.conf)

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 2:38 am 
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Hi,
Thanks for helping. Did you mean /sbin/lspci? I typed that and the output is below.

The mobo is equipped with on-board video, but I'm using an ATi 9550 Radeon in the AGP 8X slot.

I did not make any changes knowingly. The first indication of a problem was that the system was frozen. No keyboard or mouse response. Ctrl+Alt+Backspace did not work. I had to press the reset button.

When the system came up, I had the issue with Beryl, though I now think it is not Beryl itself, since the game GL-117 does not work either (it used to).

I was able to use the system by logging in as root and removing Beryl. I needed to do this because Beryl starts automatically. I added the Beryl Manager to the auto start programs in the "Sessions" menu.

I appreciate the help.
Mike


    [Mike@localhost ~]$ /sbin/lspci
    00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
    00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
    00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
    00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. PT890 Host Bridge
    00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
    00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. CN700/VN800/P4M800CE/Pro Host Bridge
    00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
    00:0a.0 Multimedia video controller: Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder (rev 05)
    00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
    00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
    00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
    00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
    00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
    00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
    00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
    00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
    00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
    00:11.6 Communication controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modem Controller (rev 80)
    00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78)
    01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550]
    01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550] (Secondary)
    [Mike@localhost ~]$


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:32 am 
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What kernel? `uname -a` and/or `rpm -q kernel`


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:43 am 
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    [Mike@localhost ~]$ rpm -q kernel
    kernel-2.6.23.15-80.fc7
    kernel-2.6.24-2blag.f7
    [Mike@localhost ~]$



Thanks,
Mike


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 4:47 am 
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The latest blag kernels do not have 3D support for Radeon anymore. See the linux-libre thread for more info.

http://forums.blagblagblag.org/viewtopic.php?t=4580


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 7:52 pm 
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Will the 3D capability be returning? Is there a way to revert to the previous Kernel so that I have 3D capability? Is reverting not recommended? What about ATi's proprietary Linux driver?

Just a few questions.

Mike


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:01 pm 
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hansencomputers wrote:
Will the 3D capability be returning? Is there a way to revert to the previous Kernel so that I have 3D capability? Is reverting not recommended? What about ATi's proprietary Linux driver?


Well, it won't be returning until someone writes a new one that is completely free.

See this for more info about where we're coming from philosophically on all this:

http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html

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-Jeff


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:07 pm 
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Thanks Jeff,
I appreciate the philosophy of keeping it free. For me it is still an adjustment, but I'm getting along pretty well with Linux.

Thanks,
Mike


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