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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:01 am 
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I'm wondering if BLAG is still being actively developed or if it has come to an end at the moment? As far as I understand the current version of BLAG is based on Fedora 9, and according to Wikipedia this Fedora release is not supported anymore (with regards to security updates etcetera I assume).

Wikipedia link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_OS#Version_history


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:47 am 
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BLAG is pretty dead at the moment. I'd recommend you switch to fedora 11.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:37 pm 
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stevo32 wrote:
BLAG is pretty dead at the moment. I'd recommend you switch to fedora 11.


your recommendation is good to me too...I'll try to migrate from blag9k

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:28 am 
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Bummer. Had been hoping for things to move forward, was very much liking the "flavour" of this project. :(

Currently running Fedora 12, and trying to only use Free Software apps with it. Not quite the same, but it's a compromise i can live with. Guess I have to. Will check back to see if any progress is made here, but is not looking promising.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:46 pm 
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Run Debian with only free software (Main repo) and kernel linux-libre I compiled myself.
I'm trying Kongoni too but I'm absolutely new with Slackware so it tire me.

Debian is my prefered distro; I used BLAG only because of the "blaggers".


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2009 2:02 am 
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Junichirô wrote:
I'm trying Kongoni too but I'm absolutely new with Slackware so it tire me.
Debian is my prefered distro; I used BLAG only because of the "blaggers".


yeah.. blaggers are great!

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i'm looking for a good option to migrate from blag; since I use my box to media creation, Musix project (based on debian) would be a good option to try, specially because it's on the FSF list of free distributions... like my favorites dynebolic and blag :)

http://musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Portada_en

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 Post subject: Going GNOMEless
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:32 pm 
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Is everything dead now? Are the doors closed?I wanted to see if I could download XFCE from YUM and the repositories are down. I am looking for something that is free software that does not use GNOME. GNOME is looking to vote on whether or not to move away from GNU and really embrace Mono and proprietary software. So finding something without GNOME seems to be a priority.


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 Post subject: Re: Going GNOMEless
PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:24 pm 
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tbassey wrote:
Is everything dead now? Are the doors closed?I wanted to see if I could download XFCE from YUM and the repositories are down. I am looking for something that is free software that does not use GNOME. GNOME is looking to vote on whether or not to move away from GNU and really embrace Mono and proprietary software. So finding something without GNOME seems to be a priority.

Seeing that the only Blag repo went down without any notice and the blag-devel mailing list being silent, I think you could call it dead. Trisquel has announced a “Mini” edition that uses XFCE. Not sure if it’s going to be completely Gnome-free.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:15 pm 
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I'll give Trisquel a try. I am thinking of using it as a live distro first, off of a flash drive, as soon as I figure that out how. I have never tried that before. I have such misgivings about any change. I know I have to, but I like GNOME, I like RPM. And,BLAG allowed me to do things with multimedia that won't be as easy to set up in other distros. But it's either Xfce or KDE it seems to me.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:58 am 
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stevo32 wrote:
BLAG is pretty dead at the moment. I'd recommend you switch to fedora 11.


do you think is better to try F11 instead F12?

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:55 am 
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v0 wrote:
stevo32 wrote:
BLAG is pretty dead at the moment. I'd recommend you switch to fedora 11.


do you think is better to try F11 instead F12?


I tried F11 for five minutes and it was such a nuisance. Nothing worked and I immediately switched back to Blag 90001.


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pp wrote:
I tried F11 for five minutes and it was such a nuisance. Nothing worked and I immediately switched back to Blag 90001.


BLAG 90001 is remarkably stable and functional. Right now its only "problem" is that it's based on Fedora 9, which is now pretty much ancient history in distro terms.


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v0 wrote:
since I use my box to media creation, Musix project (based on debian) would be a good option to try
http://musix.org.ar/wiki/index.php/Portada_en


actually... I'm testing right now this great distro ,, it have a great response with a kernel libre flavour:
Code:
#uname -a
Linux 2.6.29.4-libre1-rt19-musix32 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Mon Jul 20 16:02:04 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux

if you make media, I recommend you to use it, is really nice

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 Post subject: state of blag
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:41 pm 
State of blag/gnu linux

As to date there are 3116 blag users listed in the forum. This number does not represent the number of blag users today or
the number of people currently active in the forums, but after looking at the sheer number of people who chose to join the forums each year, I think it shows just how far we've come.

I had been wanting to take some time to compile a variety of different statistics to present in the forum to quantify that
there is some remaining interest by myself and others keep this distribution alive, but had not had the time up until now
to really see the numbers as they stand

I took an hour to review the memberlist page, sorting by joined date and presenting in descending order that

from December 2008-2009, 370 member joined the forums, which accounts for 11.8% of the forum community
These are the lowest numbers since 2005/2006, but nonetheless considering that we have been partially active, I
think those additions are significant nonetheless

From December 2007-2008, 1774 members joined the forums, which accounts for 56.9% of the forum community. It seems
people's interest in BLAG was there and weather or not it makes us more popular, it at least shows that people are
taking the time to see what we stand for.

From December 2006-2007, 458 members joined the forums, which accounts for 14.7 of the forum community, which I joined
this year. That's when I really discovered gnu/linux and found love for blag

I was not here from
From December 2005-2006, but 224 members joined the forums, which accounts for 7.2% of the forum community and in
From December 2004-2005, 145 members joined the forums, which accounted for 4.7% of the user community

I wish I was among the original 145 who joined from March 2004-Decmeber 2004 145, the first nine months, among that other 4.7% some of which represent some of the original blagstas

Where should we go from here?

Well, I have read a little bit of the blag-whereto list, a good majority of the forum and have navigated the wiki, but where do we want to take it. My main suggestion is to start with an infrastructure and here is what I propose. Wait. Let me step back first.

Where/How do we see BLAG?

I think we need to answer this question first. I think BLAG will strive to always maintain the goals the jebba developed it with, but with him gone, I think we need to come with a unified vision of where we see it. This is not going to be an easy process. If only 1% of us were to respond, I think there still would be a lot of disagreement because we are are running different hardware(but jebba created BLAG, BLAGHEAD, and some other spins for other hardware), which I I think is doable and we have the ability to do the same once we are at the point, but what is important to people. As I was reading an article about GNU/Linux support on mobile phones and the lack of software available for synchronizing today's phones, I thought that perhaps BLAG could consist not of only the distribution but sub-projects that really ease the use of...i digress. Enough Said. Where/How do we see BLAG

Back to my original point on infrastructure...I think each person who is still here has there own skills that can contribute in different ways. We should create a list of

Artists for creating artwork for BLAG
Document Writers for maintaining our documentation
Wiki maintainers for keeping an up to date wiki
Website maintainers for keeping an up to date site
Testers for testing BLAG on different platfroms
Developers for working on BLAG

As I understand there may not be a need for full structure(i.e I am the system maintainer and you are my minions and I want you to do this and that now before later. Mwah ha ha). I think once we set out with goals, I think each person has to be upfront about what and where they can contribute as to not feel pressured by anyone else. We live everywhere and its not a job, but lets have some fun, hack, learn from each other and about one another.

I'll stop here because I could rant on much more, but I want to create a list of users who are interested/committed to what they are best at. Can we do that. I'm thinking on the Wiki, if people are up to it.

Update 12/23/09

There are 610 users who have posted 1 or more message, which accounts for 19.5%% of the forum community.


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 Post subject: Re: state of blag
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2009 4:44 pm 
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I'm personally interested in BLAG very much. as far as I know this is the only RPM-based
distribution from the FSF list. I have been using such distributions from RedHad 7.0 to
Fedora 8, and I have little experience with other systems; after that I learnt that
those are not fully free and had to look for another distribution. I think BLAG
would be the best for me if the support continued.

I know almost nothing about how the packaging processes, nonetheless
I think I could be useful after some studying.


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