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r7
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: smartass Reply with quote

Caraibes wrote:
I will do so, but is there a way to remove the old kernel, so I don't have 2 options at Grub ?


Code:
apt-get remove kernel_serialnumbers


but i have to say, i like to leave a kernel that i know works on my box as a backup.

extraspecialbitter
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:12 pm    Post subject: BLAG 50002 Reply with quote

Caraibes wrote:

[martin@SPC2 ~]$ cat /etc/blag-release
BLAG release 50001 (smack)

I see the same thing when I cat this file. Is 50002 a stealth release? :^)

r7
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: BLAG 50002 Reply with quote

extraspecialbitter wrote:
I see the same thing when I cat this file. Is 50002 a stealth release? :^)


it's not been released yet!

contents
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that technically it hasn't been released yet. You've upgraded the packages and the kernel, but not yet the distro. It's released when there's an announcement about it. And then when you do apt-get distro-upgrade, you'll get a 50002 in your cat file. I think that's the way it works, anyway.
Caraibes
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that I've been experimenting on one of my internet-café's Blag box, I am back to my main Blag PC, I did the update&upgrade, but not yet the kernel upgrade...

It leads me to this question :
-What are the pros and the cons of upgrading the kernel ?

For your info, my main box runs :

[martin@spc1 ~]$ uname -a
Linux spc1 2.6.17-1.2174_FC5 #1 Tue Aug 8 15:30:55 EDT 2006 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

[martin@spc1 ~]$ cat /etc/blag-release
BLAG release 50001 (smack)

jebba
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The pros are that you get new bugfixes. The cons are that you get new bugs. ;)

-Jeff

Caraibes
PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, Jeff, life is great, I can watch TV, I can scan, I can print...

The new kernel works like a charm on my main "media" box !

I feel I am ready to take the plunge and erase the old one...

So I followed instructions :
apt-get remove kernel_serialnumbers

I get this :
[root@spc1 martin]# apt-get remove kernel_2.6.17-1.2174_FC5
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
E: Couldn't find package kernel_2.6.17-1.2174_FC5

And I don't seem to make it work... For info, the old one is 2174...

-What is the exact command I should run ???

Sorry for my ignorance... and thank you in advance :)

jebba
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't recommend it, but the correct command is:

Code:
apt-get remove kernel#2.6.17-1.2174_FC5

or
Code:
rpm -e kernel-2.6.17-1.2174_FC5


The reason I don't recommend it, is cuz it's always nice to keep an extra known working kernel around on your system. It takes up little space (50M), and if the new one goes nuts, it's easy to just reboot into the new one. It doesn't hurt anything to have it sitting there.

-Jeff

Caraibes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you guys convinced me !

if r7 & Jebba tell me it is wise to keep a back up kernel, then, this is what I'll do !

I guess I'll delete one of those 2 whenever there's another kernel release in the Blag repos...

By the way, I am on my café's Blag box, and I installed Fluxbox... It seems great for this hardware (see my post here : http://forums.blagblagblag.org/viewtopic.php?t=2604 )

:)

jebba
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even more stuff:
anacron
bridge-utils
gnupg2
kino
liferea
openssh
openssh-askpass
openssh-clients
openssh-server
ORBit2
sane-backends
sed

I'll probably, ahem, respin on Monday.

-Jeff

Caraibes
PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

-Respin ?

so I'll wait for that before Blagging PC#3 in the café... It runs Zenwalk right now (Via cpu at 796Mhz, 256 of ram), but I was really enthusiasted by Blag/Fluxbox on the same hardware in PC#2...

extraspecialbitter
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:11 am    Post subject: ndiswrapper in the BLAG repo? Reply with quote

Any possibility that ndiswrapper could be included in the BLAG repo for 50002 or shortly thereafter? I've had a tough time getting the native BCM43xx driver to work with any kind of consistency, and would rather try ndiswrapper than reinstalling Windoze on my laptop.
jebba
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 3:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

re ndiswrapper: if you want that, I suggest just grabbing it from livna.org. That should be pretty straightforward--just make sure you get the one that matches your kernel (`uname -a` and most likely i686).

-Jeff

Caraibes
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Special request for 50k2 :

-Could you make avalaible in the repos :

-Childsplay (educational stuff for the kids) : http://childsplay.sourceforge.net/

-Rox (lightweight file manager, to use in combination with Fluxbox) : http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/static.html

Thanks in advance...

jebba
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Caraibes wrote:
Childsplay (educational stuff for the kids) : http://childsplay.sourceforge.net/


Ah cool. Reminds me about my idea for kinderBLAG. :)

I'll bugzilla it. Likely won't be for 50002, but I can add stuff to the repo whenever.

Caraibes wrote:
-Rox (lightweight file manager, to use in combination with Fluxbox) : http://rox.sourceforge.net/desktop/static.html


I'm surprised no one is packaging this. I have used it in the past. Pretty nice & very lightweight.

-Jeff

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