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jebba
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Live CDs are now available (for those that didn't see it buried in another thread):

ftp://ftp.blagblagblag.org/pub/blag/linux/70000/en/iso/

They are called liveBLAG-*

Have fun,

-Jeff

john maclean
PostPosted: Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://jayeola.org/BLOG/?p=208
"The Anatomy Of The BLAG Live CD (ALPHA)" I've been digging into the image this afternoon.


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john maclean
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Downloaded, burned and spun.
http://www.jayeola.org/media/images/tech/ss/alpha/live-iso-69999/ss-blaglive-0.png

well it does work, see the screenshot. Only a couple of things....
-*- mode working-*-
- just about everything. I went straight for the shell and ran `dmesg`.
- wireless works :-) used an orinoco-based card. I'm actually blogging from the live cd right now :grin:
-*- mode bugzilla-*-
- there does not seem to be a menu entry for the tool "liveinst". How would new users know where it is or come across it?
- installing a live image is done by a tool called "liveinst". there is no man page or --help switches.
- The initial user "blagsta" does not have permissions to save his screenshots to the home dir. I took about twenty or so when trying to install blag live to a USB image.
- system, administration, >>hardware<< is listed twice in the menu entries
-*- mode bummer-*-
- i dropped the external cd tray and i think that i have damaged the device (the tray) and the CD in the process. -*- mode bummer-*-
-*- mode feature request-*-
- ask for games. I'm hooked on mahjong ;-)


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jebba
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

john maclean wrote:
Downloaded, burned and spun.
http://www.jayeola.org/media/images/tech/ss/alpha/live-iso-69999/ss-blaglive-0.png

well it does work, see the screenshot. Only a couple of things....
-*- mode working-*-
- just about everything. I went straight for the shell and ran `dmesg`.
- wireless works :-) used an orinoco-based card. I'm actually blogging from the live cd right now :grin:


Cool. :) Nice to have an orinoco....

Why /etc/issue instead of /etc/blag-release? :P

john maclean wrote:
-*- mode bugzilla-*-
- there does not seem to be a menu entry for the tool "liveinst". How would new users know where it is or come across it?


Correct. I was going to put an icon for it on the desktop or similar. Bugzilla.

john maclean wrote:
- installing a live image is done by a tool called "liveinst". there is no man page or --help switches.


Uh, ya. :)

john maclean wrote:
- The initial user "blagsta" does not have permissions to save his screenshots to the home dir. I took about twenty or so when trying to install blag live to a USB image.


Hmm, I see it can't write to /home/blagsta/Desktop (i mistake on my part), but it's own dir should be writeable, no???? Is it chmod or chowned wrong? Can you double check (and bz) for me?

john maclean wrote:
- system, administration, >>hardware<< is listed twice in the menu entries


Bugzilla.

john maclean wrote:
- ask for games. I'm hooked on mahjong ;-)


Like gnome-games?

-Jeff

john maclean
PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking of chmodding the directory. Thought that I'd give the CD a "quick spin" before I hack and break stuff.
- bz entered for the menu entry and liveinst.

Tried instalbul? System told me that I did not have enough system resources on the box to play a five second clip that I made. Most likely RAM huh? Well I have a gig here.

Code:
[jayeola@acid ~]$ ls -l /etc/issue /etc/blag-release
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 25 May  6 23:08 /etc/blag-release
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 45 May  6 23:08 /etc/issue
[jayeola@acid ~]$ stat /etc/issue /etc/blag-release
  File: `/etc/issue'
  Size: 45           Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: 303h/771d   Inode: 2154414     Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2007-07-08 18:51:47.000000000 +0100
Modify: 2007-05-06 23:08:29.000000000 +0100
Change: 2007-07-01 11:09:27.000000000 +0100
  File: `/etc/blag-release'
  Size: 25           Blocks: 8          IO Block: 4096   regular file
Device: 303h/771d   Inode: 2154412     Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
Access: 2007-05-06 23:08:29.000000000 +0100
Modify: 2007-05-06 23:08:29.000000000 +0100
Change: 2007-07-01 11:09:27.000000000 +0100


They seem to do exactly the same thing, less confusing especially when running "virtual images"...


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Magic Banana
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been on BLAG-69999.10002 since its release. I would like to install vlc. However here is the result:
Code:
# apt-get install vlc
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.

Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
that package should be filed.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  vlc: Depends: libupnp.so.2
E: Broken packages


Is it a bug? Is there a workaround? Thank you for your help.

jebba
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Re: VLC

I'm not sure what's up as those packages are in the repo. Did you do an `apt-get update` first?

Just try installing this package first: libupnp-1.4.6-1.fc7.i386.rpm

Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install libunpnp


It contains these files:
/usr/lib/libupnp.so.2
/usr/lib/libupnp.so.2.0.3

-Jeff

Magic Banana
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your interest. My system was up to date. Too much in fact! My libupnp is version was 1.6.0-1.fc7. I downgraded it to 1.4.6-1.fc7 and was able to install vlc. Problem solved!

However, now, if I ask for an update of he whole system, I am proposed to upgrade libupnp and remove vlc...

jebba
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ya. The repo doesn't have the latest VLC build. I'll sync it up over the next couple days.

-Jeff

Magic Banana
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do not know if it is a local problem or a bug in the alpha release of BLAG but vlc 0.8.6b (with libupnp 1.4.6-1.fc7 ;-) ) does not perform correctly. The volume bar on the graphical interface is not correctly displayed and I cannot read a RTP stream I was playing without any trouble on 60001...

I have found exactly the same kind of trouble with f-spot which needs to be removed when updating one of its dependencies: gnome-sharp.

john maclean
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Screenshots of the live install taken during a BLAG live CD session.
http://www.jayeola.org/media/images/tech/ss/alpha/live-iso-69999/


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Magic Banana
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Apart from installation testing purposes, is there a difference between a freshly installed BLAG-69999-80005 and a BLAG-69999-10003 kept updated with APT?

I am aware that yum is necessary to update the kernel... but I actually have troubles with making my RT2500 WIFI card to work under a 2.6.22.x kernel (I refuse to use ndiswrapper). That is why I am not that keen in installing BLAG-69999-80005 if tis requires a download of Linux. But maybe there are some advantages I am not aware of...

jebba
PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magic Banana wrote:
Apart from installation testing purposes, is there a difference between a freshly installed BLAG-69999-80005 and a BLAG-69999-10003 kept updated with APT?


Ya, basically the same. Maybe some minor package shifting.

noldrin
PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard some of those USB wifi devices work well with Linux and I've seen them listed for 10 bucks.
jebba
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok,

we're entering the final strech here. I'll put up another ISO (or two) today most likely.

In bugzilla I've opened a bunch of tickets of final things that need to be done. Most of them are just things like "final background image" and such. A couple of them are tests of upgrades to see what breaks. If you can do some upgrade tests, that would rooool.

The only bigger change I've done is to drop xmms in favour of audacious. Let me know how this fares.

It's pretty "easy" for me to push out "alphas". But final releases are always more work just due to more tedious things like the website, release notes, announcements, etc... If I ever get any takers on doing that stuff we'll definitely have releases more often. ;)

Thanks to everyone who has contributed patches and images to this release. It is those contributions that is making this final release actually happen.

-Jeff

P.S. I got back from my travels so will be able to "focus" more... ;)

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